Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/11/2008 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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09:27:32 AM Start
09:28:37 AM SB221
05:50:21 PM Adjourn
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*+ SB 221 BUDGET: CAPITAL, SUPP. & OTHER APPROPS TELECONFERENCED
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SENATE BILL NO. 221                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   making  appropriations,   including  capital                                                                    
     appropriations,   supplemental    appropriations,   and                                                                    
     appropriations to  capitalize funds; and  providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:28:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman explained that  the committee was beginning                                                                    
hearings related  to SB 221 and  would be working on  the FY                                                                    
09  capital budget  financed by  the FY  09 revenue  stream.                                                                    
The presentation would take  place by departments, depending                                                                    
on  the number  of items  submitted.   The Governor's  FY 09                                                                    
capital  budget  was just  over  $2  billion, a  substantial                                                                    
scope  increase over  the previous  year.   Co-Chair Stedman                                                                    
thought  the  Governor's  budget  should  be  evaluated  and                                                                    
prioritized along with other needs  of the state, as brought                                                                    
forth by different communities.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman said  the capital  budget  would be  zero-                                                                    
based and there  would be a Committee Substitute  (CS).  The                                                                    
CS  would  look  at  items that  are  federally  funded  and                                                                    
require a state match.  If  there was a state match that was                                                                    
a substantial percentage of the  overall value, that project                                                                    
was dropped from the CS.   The CS will have federal projects                                                                    
added.   Numerous  departments will  give presentations  and                                                                    
will be bringing  forward projects no longer  in the capital                                                                    
budget that  have been  requested by the  Governor.   As the                                                                    
clock  allows, the  committee  will attempt  to  get to  the                                                                    
federal match items.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:31:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  MOVED to ADOPT  the work draft for  SB 221                                                                    
(FIN), 25-GS2007\C, Kane, 3/8/08.  There being NO OBJECTION,                                                                    
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MILES BAKER,  STAFF, CO-CHAIR STEDMAN, provided  an overview                                                                    
of  the  contents  of the  two  binders  containing  capital                                                                    
budget detail.   He  pointed out  the binder  beginning with                                                                    
Department of Transportation and  Public Facilities that the                                                                    
committee  would begin  with.   The  project  review at  the                                                                    
front  of  the  binder  lists all  the  projects  that  each                                                                    
department  has  submitted,  and   is  followed  by  project                                                                    
detail.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Baker  explained that  when  the  Governor submits  the                                                                    
original budget, the  bindings are put together.   The green                                                                    
sheet is the  amended project list; the  white, the original                                                                    
project  list.     The  project   lists  are   put  together                                                                    
alphabetically by  project title within general  fund source                                                                    
categories,  with state-funded  projects first,  followed by                                                                    
federally-funded projects.   The old amendments  are left in                                                                    
for comparison.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Baker referred  to the yellow sheets of  paper which are                                                                    
the amendments  from the Governor after  the 30-day cut-off.                                                                    
Those  amendments were  funds source  changes  that did  not                                                                    
affect the  projects, for the  most part.  The  chairman has                                                                    
asked for those to be set aside for the time being.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:36:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Baker pointed  out  a tab  at the  back  of the  second                                                                    
binder contents  labeled  FY 08 TS.   The Governor submitted                                                                    
about  $42  million  of IT  technology  projects  that  were                                                                    
spread  across  several  departments with  08  appropriation                                                                    
effective dates.  The administration  has been asked to talk                                                                    
about those as a group.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
    DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
FRANK  RICHARDS, DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER OF  HIGHWAYS &  PUBLIC                                                                    
FACILITIES,   DEPARTMENT   OF  TRANSPORTATION   AND   PUBLIC                                                                    
FACILITIES,   began  his   presentation  with   the  Airport                                                                    
Deferred Maintenance Project.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #30633                                                                                                                  
Airport Deferred Maintenance                                                                                                    
$1,000,000 General Fund                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards   reported  that  on  an   annual  basis,  the                                                                    
department asks  for funding  to cover  deferred maintenance                                                                    
needs  that  are  above  and   beyond  the  ability  of  the                                                                    
department  to  accomplish  work  activities  on  the  rural                                                                    
airport  system.   This  includes  such  things as  pavement                                                                    
repairs, building repairs, and bird  and animal control.  It                                                                    
has  varied over  the past  several years  from $850,000  to                                                                    
$750,000,  but in  overall totals,  it  is anticipated  that                                                                    
around  $25  million  will go  toward  deferred  maintenance                                                                    
needs on the rural system.   These are necessary in order to                                                                    
keep rural airports in good operating condition.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Project #45568                                                                                                                  
Alaska Marine Highway System-Facility Deferred Maintenance                                                                      
$565,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
NANCY   SLAGLE,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                    
SERVICES,   DEPARTMENT   OF    TRANSPORTATION   AND   PUBLIC                                                                    
FACILITIES,  explained  that  the department  is  requesting                                                                    
money to deal with  terminals in Ketchikan, Juneau, Skagway,                                                                    
Hoonah,  Petersburg,  Wrangell,  and Sitka.    Specifically,                                                                    
fire alarm  and suppression systems and  underground storage                                                                    
tank replacements are needed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  explained  that originally  the  projects  were                                                                    
requested from  the Student  Loan Corporation  Project Bond.                                                                    
An  amendment submitted  later switched  the fund  source to                                                                    
the Alaska Capital Income Fund.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Project #45587                                                                                                                  
Fire Alarms and Suppression Systems                                                                                             
$50,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Project #45588                                                                                                                  
Underground Storage Tank Replacement                                                                                            
$515,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  reported  that the  projects  are  also  Alaska                                                                    
Marine   Highway  System   Vessel   and  Facility   Deferred                                                                    
Maintenance projects  and deal with facilities  repairs that                                                                    
have not been  kept up.  The difference is  the fund source.                                                                    
The  appropriation  will  be  used  to  deal  with  facility                                                                    
maintenance,  as   well  as  vessel   deferred  maintenance,                                                                    
including recoating underwater body  paint on the MV Aurora,                                                                    
replacing exterior handrails on  the MV Columbia, installing                                                                    
a new  liner for the  main engine  on the MV  Matanuska, and                                                                    
replacing  the  electrical  system transformers  on  the  MV                                                                    
Malaspina.  These are DOT's  top priorities for dealing with                                                                    
vessels, from  a lengthy list of  deferred maintenance needs                                                                    
totaling around $5 million for immediate priority needs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:42:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  encouraged Ms.  Slagle to go  through each                                                                    
item.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  delineated  the $50,000  for  fire  alarms  and                                                                    
suppression  systems and  terminal repair  and $515,000  for                                                                    
underground storage tank replacement.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Project #42001                                                                                                                  
Alaska  Marine   Highway  System   Vessel-Facility  Deferred                                                                    
Maintenance                                                                                                                     
$2,000,000 GF                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman queried why the  item remains the same over                                                                    
the years.   Ms. Slagle  responded that the  department does                                                                    
not know  what the  number will  be.  The  need for  the top                                                                    
priority list is about $5  million.  Ms. Slagle talked about                                                                    
a balance between general overhaul  monies needed, and major                                                                    
refurbishment money from the federal  government.  The items                                                                    
listed here are not covered by either source.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requested the history  of the request.  Ms.                                                                    
Slagle replied  that 2007  was the  first time  DOT received                                                                    
money  for   deferred  maintenance   for  the   vessels  and                                                                    
facilities.    The  department  has  not  received  deferred                                                                    
maintenance  money  for around  10  years.   The  department                                                                    
typically  receives GF  overhaul  money  or federal  capital                                                                    
improvement project (CIP) major project money.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:46:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #30624                                                                                                                  
Marine   Highway   System   Vessel-Terminal   Overhaul   and                                                                    
Rehabilitation                                                                                                                  
$9,900,000 General Fund                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  explained that DOT receives  money annually to                                                                    
deal with basic  overhaul of the vessels,  which is required                                                                    
for re-certification  by the Coast  Guard.  It  provides for                                                                    
the annual inspection repair and  maintenance that cannot be                                                                    
performed  while  the  vessels   are  underway  because  the                                                                    
vessels  must be  dry-docked and  inspected.   The  overhaul                                                                    
includes making  sure systems are functioning  and equipment                                                                    
meets  requirements.    It also  includes  money  for  other                                                                    
equipment replacement in the terminals  and ferries, such as                                                                    
computers or passenger service items.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Project #6391                                                                                                                   
Americans with Disabilities Act Compliance Projects                                                                             
$500,000 GF                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards continued with the  request for items that need                                                                    
to be  done to comply  with the Americans  with Disabilities                                                                    
Act  (ADA), such  as removing  barriers to  state buildings.                                                                    
He said  the Department  has not received  significant money                                                                    
for this in  the past, but there are  compliance issues that                                                                    
must be addressed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:48:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards reported  that the allocation would  be used to                                                                    
take care  of such  things as ramps  and rest  room upgrades                                                                    
and automatic doors.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Thomas   had   a   question   regarding   deferred                                                                    
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  answered that the amount  allocated provides for                                                                    
maintenance  of  immediate  needs  and does  not  allow  for                                                                    
catching up on the backlog of deferred maintenance needs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins thought the AMHS  was a  ship afloat without                                                                    
an anchor and without a captain  at the wheel".  He wondered                                                                    
why he should  have confidence in the proposed  numbers.  He                                                                    
questioned if anyone was in charge of the system currently.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  referred to  Deputy Commissioner  Dennis Hardy                                                                    
in the audience.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins  wanted to be  involved in  the conversation                                                                    
regarding long-term solutions.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   noted  concern  when  looking   back  at                                                                    
overhaul costs on aging ships without replacement plans.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  replied that deferred needs  are continuing to                                                                    
be  requested because  the  budgets have  not  been able  to                                                                    
address backlog needs.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:52:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45294                                                                                                                  
Americans with Disabilities Act Transition Plan Update                                                                          
$200,000 GF                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  explained that the  plans are old and  need to                                                                    
be upgraded  to remain  ADA compliant.   This  funding would                                                                    
specifically  address building  and harbor  needs which  are                                                                    
not eligible for federal funds.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Project #32534                                                                                                                  
Capital Improvement Program Equipment Replacement                                                                               
$1,500,000 CIP Rcpts                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle related that the  allocation allows AMHS to use a                                                                    
portion of  the money for equipment  needed for construction                                                                    
projects.   The Department  cannot specifically  charge that                                                                    
equipment directly to construction projects.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman noted he would  find out from his staff how                                                                    
the 2007 and 2008 money was spent.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Project #AMD43010                                                                                                               
Chignik Lagoon: Airport Safety Improvements                                                                                     
$4,000,000 GF                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards explained  that the  project  would use  money                                                                    
from  last year  to do  a design  effort for  Chignik Lagoon                                                                    
Airport.   He said it  would normally be a  federal project,                                                                    
but  that would  entail  more expense  and have  significant                                                                    
environmental   concerns.     The   airport  currently   has                                                                    
significant safety concerns.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:57:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #39907                                                                                                                  
Coffman Cove Maintenance Station                                                                                                
$980,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards reported  that  the  allocation would  upgrade                                                                    
Coffman   Cove  Highway   and   would   construct  a   small                                                                    
maintenance station in Coffman Cove.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  noted  that  the  truck  and  loader  are                                                                    
requested under  a separate capital  request.  He  asked why                                                                    
the equipment can't  be shifted from the old  station to the                                                                    
new station.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  replied that  the  equipment  at the  Klawock                                                                    
station and airport  is currently being used  there.  Taking                                                                    
the equipment to Coffman Cove  would cause disparity between                                                                    
existing crew needs and responsibilities.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked  if there were any  trucks that could                                                                    
be re-deployed.   Mr. Richards said that many  of the trucks                                                                    
were worn out and needed to be replaced.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton   referred  to  the  language   "will  assume                                                                    
maintenance  responsibility for  the  22  mile long  Coffman                                                                    
Cove  Highway".     He  wondered   who  would   provide  the                                                                    
maintenance.   Mr. Richards explained  that it became  a DOT                                                                    
road after it was built  with U.S. Forest receipt monies for                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton inquired  if the  "right  of way  acquisition                                                                    
estimated  at $200,000",  is the  right  of way  to the  new                                                                    
facility.    Mr. Richards  assumed  the  cost was  for  land                                                                    
purchase.   He offered to  find out.  Senator  Elton assumed                                                                    
it was Forest Service land.  Mr. Richards did not know.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman thought  there was  municipal land  around                                                                    
Coffman Cove.   He  asked Mr.  Richards to  get back  to the                                                                    
committee on that.  He inquired  if it was the intent of the                                                                    
department to  relocate an  employee to  Coffman Cove.   Mr.                                                                    
Richards said that was correct.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  if  it was  adding  an employee  or                                                                    
redeploying  an employee.   Mr.  Richards  said an  employee                                                                    
currently  working  in  Klawock will  re-deploy  to  Coffman                                                                    
Cove.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:02:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #42968                                                                                                                  
Community Harbor Deferred Maintenance and Transfer Program                                                                      
$2,580,000 GF                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  explained  that   the  funding  is  used  for                                                                    
maintenance of  harbors now owned by  municipalities such as                                                                    
Jakalof Bay, Baranof Warm Springs, and Kake.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  wondered if  those three  communities were                                                                    
willing partners  in the  transfers.   He noted  that Bethel                                                                    
feels pressured  to take responsibility  for what  they feel                                                                    
is  a  regional port.    The  department  was not  going  to                                                                    
provide assistance  to them and  they feel at odds  with the                                                                    
department.   He  asked if  the communities  are doing  this                                                                    
with  the  full  knowledge  of the  responsibility  it  will                                                                    
entail and not being pressured to do so.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Richards  explained   that  the   department  received                                                                    
resolutions from  each community  and there was  no pressure                                                                    
placed  upon them.    Co-Chair Hoffman  hoped  that was  the                                                                    
case.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:04:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   recalled   that  the   communities   he                                                                    
represents have  succumbed to DOT  and have taken  over most                                                                    
of  the harbors.    He  said that  Baranof  Warm Springs  is                                                                    
listed at  $1.3 million  and last  year the  Governor vetoed                                                                    
it.  He  wondered if that would happen again.   Mr. Richards                                                                    
thought  the Governor  would stand  by  the current  capital                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  suggested  giving back  $1.3  million  to                                                                    
Sitka.   There  was additional  information on  cost changes                                                                    
and  continued  deterioration and  the  total  was now  $1.7                                                                    
million.    He  noted  a  resolution  sent  from  the  Sitka                                                                    
Assembly, a letter, and other  correspondence.  He suggested                                                                    
that if the project is funded, it stay funded.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  said  the department  would  correspond  with                                                                    
Sitka  about cost  increases.   The  challenge  is that  the                                                                    
department's  operating budget  for floats  and harbors  has                                                                    
not   included  deferred   maintenance   needs,  and   these                                                                    
facilities  have fallen  into disrepair.   It  is a  goal to                                                                    
transfer  those  facilities  to the  community  after  being                                                                    
upgraded.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  thought it was  a matter of  priority, and                                                                    
DOT making  sure they  are prioritized  and funded.   Bethel                                                                    
serves 15  communities, so Bethel should  not be responsible                                                                    
to maintain the  port on behalf of all the  communities.  He                                                                    
thought it should be the  state's responsibility.  He wanted                                                                    
DOT to make that a priority.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  thought  that  in  Bethel  the  issue  was  a                                                                    
tideland transfer to the city.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:09:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  emphasized that all of  the tidelands were                                                                    
being  utilized  by  the  villages and  there  should  be  a                                                                    
cooperative agreement between the city and the state.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richard understood  that there  was a  cooperative plan                                                                    
between  Bethel and  the  state.   He  thought $600,000  was                                                                    
appropriated for the facility.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  gave an example of  the difference between                                                                    
an  allocation   and  an  appropriation.     He   noted  the                                                                    
appropriation request  for $2.58  million and  an allocation                                                                    
within that amount.  He  wondered if separate appropriations                                                                    
were needed.   Ms. Slagle thought  it would be fine  to have                                                                    
allocations within the appropriation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  explained that  an appropriation  has hard                                                                    
boundaries  and allocations  are  more flexible.   He  noted                                                                    
concern  with legislative  intent being  misconstrued within                                                                    
DOT in the past.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:11:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #43056                                                                                                                  
Connect Anchorage                                                                                                               
$23,500,000 GF                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards related  that this  was also  an appropriation                                                                    
with sub-allocations.   It is  a long-range plan  to address                                                                    
congestion  and upgrade  facilities within  Anchorage.   The                                                                    
                                                   th                                                                           
two allocations under  the appropriation are the 40   Avenue                                                                    
Extension and the New Seward Highway.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked for an  overview of the  process the                                                                    
department went through.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  explained that the department  utilizes state,                                                                    
federal, and  local funds.   It looks  at projects  based on                                                                    
how long  they will take and  how successful it would  be to                                                                    
get  environmental  permits.    He  gave  Elmo  Road  as  an                                                                    
example.   The new road was  analyzed to see if  it would be                                                                    
more efficient  to utilize state  funds, which  would result                                                                    
in  less costs  overall.   For  existing roads  such as  the                                                                    
Seward Highway  or the  Glenn Highway, it  is easier  to use                                                                    
federal funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:16:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton summarized that Connect Anchorage was a 10-                                                                       
year program that began in  2006 with $35 million identified                                                                    
for FY 09 and  FY 10.  He wondered what  the out years would                                                                    
cost.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  referred to an agreement  signed between then-                                                                    
Governor  Murkowski   and  Mayor  Begich  to   identify  the                                                                    
projects in  Connect Anchorage, which included  a highway to                                                                    
highway  connection  for  $600  million,  the  Dowling  Road                                                                    
extension  for  $95  million, and  the  new  Seward  Highway                                                                    
upgrade for $210 million, plus  lesser projects, for a total                                                                    
of $1.16 billion.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton  assumed  the  department  was  working  with                                                                    
Juneau  on  a  similar cooperative  agreement  to  construct                                                                    
transportation projects.   He wondered  if there  were other                                                                    
municipalities  that  also  have  transportation  agreements                                                                    
with the department.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards replied that he was not aware of any.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:18:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  OTTESEN, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF PROGRAM  DEVELOPMENT,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT   OF   TRANSPORTATION  AND   PUBLIC   FACILITIES,                                                                    
reported that he was not aware  of any such agreements.  The                                                                    
Connect Anchorage  project was  initiated by  the Governor's                                                                    
office, not the department, and was an exception.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton  emphasized that  it  was  an exception  that                                                                    
would cost about  $1.2 billion over ten years.   Mr. Ottesen                                                                    
agreed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  suggested that  Anchorage was  unique because                                                                    
of a  mix of  state and  municipal roads.   He spoke  of his                                                                    
experience  as  an  apprentice  to  the  Anchorage  Assembly                                                                    
watching the  transportation problem  evolve over time.   He                                                                    
explained the  current negotiated maintenance  agreement for                                                                    
Anchorage  roads.    He  spoke  of  the  goal  to  make  the                                                                    
north/south   transportation   route   more   rational   and                                                                    
eliminate congestion.   He commended the process  by which a                                                                    
reasonable agreement was reached.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  noted that  the model that  has been  used by                                                                    
the department in the past  with harbors was not used during                                                                    
this project.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman did  not have  a problem  with a  ten-year                                                                    
earmark for  Anchorage, but agreed  with Senator  Elton that                                                                    
fairness is  needed for all  communities.  He brought  up an                                                                    
example of  a priority given  to Anchorage rather than  to a                                                                    
rural  project or  to the  Mat-Su Valley.   He  did not  see                                                                    
major   assistance   with   long-term  plans   for   smaller                                                                    
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman recognized  that  Anchorage  has half  the                                                                    
population  in  Alaska,  but  maintained  that  remote  area                                                                    
general fund requests are not  treated fairly and there is a                                                                    
question of parity.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:24:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  reiterated the goal  of Connect  Anchorage and                                                                    
pointed out  that the  community is  putting money  into the                                                                    
project through  bonding.  Federal funding  within Anchorage                                                                    
must  go through  the  municipal  planning organization  for                                                                    
transportation improvement  programs.  Congestion  flow into                                                                    
Anchorage  impacts  a  considerable  number  of  people.  He                                                                    
maintained that the department  was not unfairly designating                                                                    
money to Anchorage.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  thought that nothing in  the signed agreement                                                                    
with the  municipality of  Anchorage forces  the legislature                                                                    
to fund the project.  Mr. Richards agreed.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:28:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #45438                                                                                                                  
                       th                                                                                                       
New Seward Highway  36 South 6  Lane                                                                                            
$13,500,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards turned to the  second allocation within Connect                                                                    
Anchorage.   He explained that  the project would  widen the                                                                    
Seward  highway from  four  lanes to  six lanes.    It is  a                                                                    
safety concern that should be addressed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Project #30648                                                                                                                  
Coordinated Transportation and Vehicles                                                                                         
$800,000 General Fund/Representative Hawker                                                                                     
$300,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  reported that the allocation  would help provide                                                                    
funding for  coordinated transportation services  for Mental                                                                    
Health  Trust  beneficiaries  and  for  purchasing  vehicles                                                                    
through a grant for non-profits.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:30:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #36453                                                                                                                  
Corps of Engineers  Harbor Program                                                                                              
$2,250,000 G/F Match                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle reported  that  the funding  would  be used  for                                                                    
feasibility studies.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Project #41390                                                                                                                  
Dalton Highway Including Surfacing Materials                                                                                    
$5,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards   discussed  the  multi-year   Dalton  Highway                                                                    
allocation.   He explained  the progress  of the  project so                                                                    
far  and  the   intended  use  of  the   funds  for  highway                                                                    
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:32:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  commented on the importance  of the Dalton                                                                    
Highway as  it relates  to the gas  pipeline.   He requested                                                                    
comments  on  that  project.   Mr.  Richards  described  the                                                                    
planned  improvements   to  the  road.     Co-Chair  Stedman                                                                    
inquired  about trucking  LNG to  Fairbanks.   Mr.  Richards                                                                    
replied  that the  impact  of  the LNG  tankers  is not  yet                                                                    
known.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman noted  that  in the  past  the AK  Capital                                                                    
Income Fund  has been used to  fund this item.   He wondered                                                                    
how the  decision was made  whether to use general  funds or                                                                    
AK  Capital Income  Funds.   Ms. Slagle  replied that  those                                                                    
decisions are made by OMB in the Governor's office.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  asked what  inflation factor  is use  for the                                                                    
out years' $22  million.  Mr. Richards said  that the dollar                                                                    
figure does  not include inflation-proofing.   Senator Elton                                                                    
thought the inflation  rate was at 10 percent  over the past                                                                    
seven years.   He  questioned what the  request would  be in                                                                    
2010 with inflation  factored in.  Mr.  Richards thought the                                                                    
request would not  be escalated due to  an inflation factor.                                                                    
The  request  is for  heavy  maintenance  projects, not  for                                                                    
reconstruction.  Ms. Slagle added  that there is $14 million                                                                    
in  the  Governor's bond  proposal  for  the Dalton  Highway                                                                    
resurfacing.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton  reported on  the  increase  in earth  moving                                                                    
costs and speculated that additional funds would be needed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:38:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas echoed  the same  concerns about  the Dalton                                                                    
Highway  due to  the importance  of  the gas  pipeline.   He                                                                    
thought a long-range, sustainable plan would be better.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Project #45200                                                                                                                  
Dust Suppression Project  Water Trucks and Trailers                                                                             
$650,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards explained  that the goal of this  project is to                                                                    
provide  equipment  to  control  the  dust  in  villages  in                                                                    
western  Alaska.   The  challenge  is  that there  could  be                                                                    
problems  with  air  quality standards  and  the  EPA  could                                                                    
direct funds to be used to  solve this problem.  The plan is                                                                    
to address this issue before it happens.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson   said  it  is   an  example   of  unintended                                                                    
consequences because of clumsy government regulations.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:42:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #30634                                                                                                                  
Emergency and Non-Routine Repairs                                                                                               
$500,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle explained  that the  funding is  for repairs  to                                                                    
transportation facilities  due to natural disasters  and are                                                                    
not eligible for federal dollars.   Mr. Richards provided an                                                                    
example of a  bridge repair above and beyond  the ability of                                                                    
the operating budget.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Hoffman   commented   on  flooding   in   coastal                                                                    
communities due  to global warming.   He suggested  that the                                                                    
request might be underfunded.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #45567                                                                                                                  
Facilities Deferred Maintenance                                                                                                 
$13,273,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle listed the projects in categories.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #45575                                                                                                                  
Exterior Door Repair or Replacement                                                                                             
$490,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  explained  the  allocation  for  exterior  door                                                                    
repair or replacement in various communities.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #45572                                                                                                                  
Exterior Siding Repair and Replacement                                                                                          
$1,952,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  talked about  the  exterior  siding repair  and                                                                    
replacement request in numerous communities.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:47:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #45578                                                                                                                  
Major Facility Maintenance or Replacement                                                                                       
$1,050,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman requested  a  comparison between  Projects                                                                    
#45567  and  #45578  regarding facility  maintenance.    Ms.                                                                    
Slagle replied  that the first  one is an  appropriation and                                                                    
the second is an allocation within it.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #45579                                                                                                                  
Miscellaneous Interior Repairs                                                                                                  
$440,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle explained the various repairs needed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Project #45577                                                                                                                  
Oil/Water Separators and Fuel Tank Replacement                                                                                  
$1,431,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Slagle   discussed   the  allocation   for   oil/water                                                                    
separators and fuel tank replacements.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #45570                                                                                                                  
Roof Repair and Replacement                                                                                                     
$3,952,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  explained  the   roof  repair  and  replacement                                                                    
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton thought  that  the  allocations for  Projects                                                                    
#45570  and  45576  were  not DOT  functions  in  that  they                                                                    
included court houses.   He wondered why  the buildings were                                                                    
not part  of the pool  where the agency within  the building                                                                    
is in charge of maintenance.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle explained that the  reason they were not included                                                                    
in the Public  Building Fund was because  the funding source                                                                    
for maintenance comes from the  general fund.  Senator Elton                                                                    
asked if  the Department  of Law pays  for the  Dimond Court                                                                    
House.   Ms. Slagle was  not sure if  it is included  in the                                                                    
Public  Building  Fund  or comes  under  the  Department  of                                                                    
Administration.   She  explained the  history of  the Public                                                                    
Building Fund.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:54:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #45576                                                                                                                  
Upgrade   and   Repair   Heating,   Ventilation,   and   Air                                                                    
Conditioning Systems and Utilities                                                                                              
$3,958,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle talked  about the upgrade and  repair of heating,                                                                    
ventilation,  and  air  conditioning systems  and  utilities                                                                    
allocation.  She listed the areas maintained.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #30632                                                                                                                  
Facilities Deferred Maintenance and Critical Repairs                                                                            
$2,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  explained that this  appropriation is  for items                                                                    
not dealt with in the previous allocation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  pointed out  that the money  has to  be spread                                                                    
over  700   buildings  statewide.  The  need   for  deferred                                                                    
maintenance keeps growing.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Project #45195                                                                                                                  
Galena   Maintenance   Building   Efficiency   Modifications                                                                    
$156,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  said that this  building would  be transferred                                                                    
to  the state  from  the US  Air Force,  which  has been  in                                                                    
Galena and will be closed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Project #45659                                                                                                                  
Glenn Highway Rut Repair                                                                                                        
$11.5 million Gen Fund                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  pointed out  the need for  this repair  due to                                                                    
the heavy  commuter traffic.   He described the lanes  to be                                                                    
repaired.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:58:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  wanted an update  on the lighting  project on                                                                    
the Glenn Highway.   Mr. Richard responded on  the status of                                                                    
the  project.   Senator Dyson  hoped  for money  to fix  the                                                                    
drainage problems north  of Farm Avenue.  He  also wanted to                                                                    
coordinate  the  projects.   Mr.  Richards  answered that  a                                                                    
priority is to use public money wisely.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
RECESSED:           11:01:31 AM                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENED:    2:36:40 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle returned  to a  question  regarding the  Coffman                                                                    
Cove  maintenance station  right  of way  acquisition.   She                                                                    
corrected that the allocation should  have been for the land                                                                    
purchase of the site from the city of Coffman Cove.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton asked  if there was any  possibility of "doing                                                                    
a  deal"  with  Coffman  Cove,  since  they  are  gaining  a                                                                    
maintenance station.   Ms. Slagle  replied that they  try to                                                                    
work closely  with the communities.   She used Seward  as an                                                                    
example.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Project #7090                                                                                                                   
Harbor Deferred Maintenance                                                                                                     
$650,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  discussed the appropriation which  would address                                                                    
backlogged  deferred  maintenance for  state-owned  harbors.                                                                    
She listed  the top priorities.   Co-Chair Stedman mentioned                                                                    
privatization of  harbors and grant  programs.   He wondered                                                                    
if some  of the  harbors would be  able to  generate revenue                                                                    
and if  the department had  any plans  to that effect.   Ms.                                                                    
Slagle  replied  that  the  department  does  not  have  the                                                                    
infrastructure to  do that.   Co-Chair Stedman  provided two                                                                    
examples  of how  that could  be done:  Funter Bay  and Port                                                                    
Alexander.   He wondered  why the harbors  do not  require a                                                                    
fee for usage.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Richards  thought   it  would   take  monitoring   and                                                                    
assessment of fees  to put that plan into effect.   It would                                                                    
also take a  large amount of traffic to  make it worthwhile.                                                                    
Co-Chair Stedman thought it would  be about $6,000 to $8,000                                                                    
per harbor.   He  argued that the  current situation  is not                                                                    
equitable.   Mr.  Richards  offered to  work  on this  issue                                                                    
during  the interim  in order  to find  a system  that would                                                                    
work.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:46:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #AMD7091                                                                                                                
Harbor Program Development                                                                                                      
$400,000 G/F Match                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle reported that part of  the funding is for a match                                                                    
for the Denali Commission and  part is for the management of                                                                    
the program.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman questioned the  amount for a state seaplane                                                                    
dock  found  on the  second  page  of the  Harbors  Deferred                                                                    
Maintenance  DOTPF Inventory 2007 Update.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:48:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL LUKSHIN,  STATE HARBOR ENGINEER, DIVISION  OF DESIGN                                                                    
&  ENGINEERING SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT  OF TRANSPORTATION  AND                                                                    
PUBLIC  FACILITIES, explained  that the  money would  be for                                                                    
maintaining  the  float  dock  and  the  seaplane  float  at                                                                    
Baranof Warm Springs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
In  response  to  a  question  from  Co-Chair  Stedman,  Mr.                                                                    
Richards replied that the city  of Sitka would maintain both                                                                    
floats.  Ms. Slagle explained  that if the money is approved                                                                    
for the  transfer of  the floats, then  the $628,000  on the                                                                    
deferred  maintenance list  would not  be needed.   Co-Chair                                                                    
Stedman asked where  the money would go.   Mr. Richards said                                                                    
that  the  maintenance  money and  the  transfer  money  are                                                                    
separate funds.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  explained an  item  from  last year's  deferred                                                                    
maintenance list which is no  longer a priority.  She listed                                                                    
the priority items  and offered to discuss them  at a future                                                                    
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:52:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project # 30631                                                                                                                 
Highway Deferred Maintenance                                                                                                    
$3,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  addressed  the current  backlog  of  deferred                                                                    
maintenance items  such as  surface and  embankment repairs,                                                                    
drainage  culverts  and  ditch repairs,  guardrail  repairs,                                                                    
marking and  sign repairs, and  brushing.   Co-Chair Stedman                                                                    
asked for more information about Sitka's guardrail request.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked  about Nome's road dust  control.  He                                                                    
wondered why  it was not  included in the section  about air                                                                    
quality.   Mr. Richards  reported that  the projects  on the                                                                    
list are funding  allocations from FY 07.   Co-Chair Hoffman                                                                    
requested    more    information    about    dust    control                                                                    
appropriations.  Mr. Richards offered to provide that list.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:55:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45198                                                                                                                  
Highway   Maintenance   Vehicle   Replacement   and   Safety                                                                    
Equipment                                                                                                                       
$2,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  said  that  the  request  is  for  additional                                                                    
funding to supplement the  Highway Equipment Working Capital                                                                    
Fund for equipment  (22 units) that needs to  be replaced in                                                                    
FY 09.  He talked  about attenuators and warning devices for                                                                    
dump trucks.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked how  the attenuator attachments work.                                                                    
Mr. Richards described their function.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:58:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #39900                                                                                                                  
Jim River (Dalton Highway) Maintenance Station Replacement                                                                      
$6,000,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He elaborated on the full replacement that is needed.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Project #AMD45297                                                                                                               
Kenai Borough Road Projects                                                                                                     
$2,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards described the work included in the projects.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:00:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45197                                                                                                                  
Measurement  Standards  and Commercial  Vehicle  Enforcement                                                                    
Equipment Replacement                                                                                                           
$516,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle reported that the  request will provide funds for                                                                    
the  purchase  of  scale testing  equipment  and  volumetric                                                                    
provers for the MSCVE division.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Project #45192                                                                                                                  
Nome State Office Building Design Study, Land Purchase                                                                          
$1,900,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Slagle  explained   that  the   request  is   for  the                                                                    
preliminary design  and land purchase.   The department will                                                                    
come back later to request construction funds.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  how much  will be  requested.   Ms.                                                                    
Slagle estimated  about $18 million.   Co-Chair Stedman said                                                                    
that was $450 per square foot.   Mr. Richards agreed that it                                                                    
would be between $400 and $500 per square foot.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:04:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #42935                                                                                                                  
Parks Highway Weight Restrictions                                                                                               
$2,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards described  the  problems  with the  unsuitable                                                                    
road from Milepost 241-262 of the Parks Highway.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  asked about other  funding for  this project.                                                                    
Mr.  Richards reported  that  there was  money  in the  bond                                                                    
package  for the  Parks  Highway at  Milepost  72-90.   This                                                                    
request is for a part of the road north of that.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Project #39356                                                                                                                  
Resource Development Roads                                                                                                      
$3,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards commented  that the allocation was  in order to                                                                    
promote  revenue and  employment opportunities.   The  funds                                                                    
would  be used  to improve  and develop  roads to  mines and                                                                    
timber.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  questioned the  $3 million amount  and the                                                                    
large  number of  projects.   He wondered  if it  was enough                                                                    
money.   Mr.  Richards replied  that some  of the  roads are                                                                    
already in place and just need upgrading.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  thought they  used to  be called  the Pioneer                                                                    
Roads and they  didn't meet federal highway  standards.  Mr.                                                                    
Richards said  that was correct;  they are now  called Roads                                                                    
to  Resources.   The allocation  has  been used  to work  on                                                                    
existing roads,  as well  as new access  roads in  the North                                                                    
Slope.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton noted  that none of the projects  go through a                                                                    
public process  to prioritize them.   Mr. Richards explained                                                                    
how the  projects are selected.   Senator Elton  pointed out                                                                    
that the list consists of  roads and projects that have been                                                                    
done.   He wondered  if there  were any that  had yet  to be                                                                    
done.   Mr. Richards gave  several examples.   Senator Elton                                                                    
requested a list of future projects.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:12:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #AMD41146                                                                                                               
Richardson Highway, Shaw Creek Bridge                                                                                           
$4,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  related that the  bridge needs to  be replaced                                                                    
to   accommodate   heavy   module   movements   needed   for                                                                    
construction of the Alaska Natural Gas Pipeline.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Project #45193                                                                                                                  
Seward Highway Maintenance Station Replacement                                                                                  
$3,200,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards explained  that the  goal is  to relocate  and                                                                    
construct a  new facility.   Senator Dyson thought  the land                                                                    
was very  valuable and  wondered about  cost recovery.   Mr.                                                                    
Richards reported on the potential results of the sale.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Project #45651                                                                                                                  
Seward Highway: Milepost 86  Kern Creek Culverts                                                                                
$3,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Richards   detailed   the  project   description   and                                                                    
justification.    He   talked  about  meeting  environmental                                                                    
regulations.    Senator  Elton  asked  if  it  is  a  shared                                                                    
project.  Mr. Richards said it is a DOTPF request.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:17:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #30628                                                                                                                  
State Equipment Fleet Replacement Request                                                                                       
$15,000,000 Hwy Capitl                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Slagle   explained   about  the   replacement   and/or                                                                    
refurbishment of equipment and vehicles.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  questioned if  $15 million is  an accurate                                                                    
number  in light  of cost  increases.   Mr. Richards  agreed                                                                    
that the  cost of equipment is  going up.  He  reported that                                                                    
as more HEWCF funds are captured, more could be expended.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked what type  of equipment was purchased                                                                    
during the  last two years  and where  they were sent.   Mr.                                                                    
Richards offered to  provide that information.   He spoke of                                                                    
savings on the  purchase of 91 dump trucks  that were spread                                                                    
statewide.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  reiterated a request for  more information                                                                    
regarding  bonding package  items.   Mr. Richards  said that                                                                    
would be forthcoming.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:20:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #41394                                                                                                                  
Statewide Anti-icing Program                                                                                                    
$500,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  described  the request  to  purchase  storage                                                                    
tanks  and  application  equipment.   He  spoke  of  warming                                                                    
trends and an extended shoulder season.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Project #45202                                                                                                                  
Statewide Emergency Bridge Repair                                                                                               
$1,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards reported  on  the  statewide emergency  bridge                                                                    
repair needs.  This repair  work is not eligible for federal                                                                    
bridge funds.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:22:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  requested a  list  of  the bridges  in  this                                                                    
allocation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas  asked what  happens  if  someone damages  a                                                                    
bridge     whether insurance  is  collected.   Mr.  Richards                                                                    
replied   that  insurance   is   collected   and  used   for                                                                    
replacement purposes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Project #42072                                                                                                                  
Statewide Rural Airport Safety Improvements                                                                                     
$3,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  talked  about  the  statewide  rural  airport                                                                    
safety improvements  request.   He described the  details of                                                                    
the projects.  He spoke of barging gravel to rural areas.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:25:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45207                                                                                                                  
Striping and Marking Performance Improvement                                                                                    
$1,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Richards  reported   on  the   striping  and   marking                                                                    
performance  improvements request  for the  Glenn and  Parks                                                                    
Highways from Anchorage to the  Mat-Su Valley.  He described                                                                    
the project in detail.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #33853                                                                                                                  
Surfacing Materials                                                                                                             
$1,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  detailed the request  for funds  for surfacing                                                                    
materials for  major roads and  as surface course  on gravel                                                                    
roads.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #AMD45392                                                                                                               
Trunk Road  Phase 1                                                                                                             
$20,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  discussed the  Trunk  Road     Phase 1  is  a                                                                    
request for  $20 million.   The road section is  between the                                                                    
Parks Highway and the Palmer-Wasilla Highway.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  reported that  this  ends  the discussion  on                                                                    
general fund requests.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
RECESSED:      3:30:48 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENED:    3:31:46 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Project #6764                                                                                                                   
Statewide Federal Programs                                                                                                      
$57,500,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                           
$51,838,000 G/F Match                                                                                                           
$100,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
$32,000,000 Stat Desig                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  suggested the  department rank all  of the                                                                    
projects.   Mr. Richards  asked if  that request  extends to                                                                    
the general fund  projects also.  Co-Chair  Stedman said all                                                                    
projects not in the capital budget committee substitute.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
RECESSED:      3:33:15 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENED:    4:37:30 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle noted  that the  following  allocations are  for                                                                    
federal programs.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Project #42960                                                                                                                  
Advanced Project Definition for Denali Commission                                                                               
$100,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  said the appropriation would  provide assistance                                                                    
to  the  Denali  Commission by  developing  project  scopes,                                                                    
schedules,  and budgets  for projects  to  be nominated  for                                                                    
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Project #39893                                                                                                                  
Commercial Motor  Vehicle Safety,  Infrastructure Protection                                                                    
and Security                                                                                                                    
$3,300,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  turned to the  commercial motor  vehicle safety,                                                                    
infrastructure  protection and  security request,  which are                                                                    
FMCSA grants.   Senator Elton thought that  this request was                                                                    
an operating  budget request,  not a  capital request.   Ms.                                                                    
Slagle reported that it was  easier to administrate this way                                                                    
and it  allows for  a third-party  billing system.   Senator                                                                    
Elton asked  if were  in the operating  budget, if  it would                                                                    
allow unfunded  liabilities in the  retirement system  to be                                                                    
reduced  by charging  jobs  out.   Ms.  Slagle replied  that                                                                    
personnel costs are being charged to the grants.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:41:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #34752                                                                                                                  
Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Program                                                                                          
$1,400,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  reported that  this is  an ongoing  program that                                                                    
provides funds for commercial vehicle enforcement.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Project #AMD31375                                                                                                               
Cooperative Reimbursable Projects                                                                                               
$1,500,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                            
$32,000,000 Stat Desig                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  pointed out the revised  request for cooperative                                                                    
reimbursable  projects.   The  statutory designated  program                                                                    
receipts   are  for   projects  approved   for  the   Denali                                                                    
Commission Transportation Program.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   suggested   the  department   move   to                                                                    
appropriations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Project #6896                                                                                                                   
Federal-Aid Aviation State Match                                                                                                
$9,200,000 G/F Match                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle referred  to the  appropriations that  require a                                                                    
state  match beginning  with federal-aid  aviation, federal-                                                                    
aid highway, and the other federal program match.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Project #AMD32609                                                                                                               
Federal-Aid Highway State Match                                                                                                 
$40,600,000 G/F Match                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  said the  monies  would  support federal  funds                                                                    
received  from  the  Federal  Highway  Administration  State                                                                    
Transportation Improvement Program.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Project #41923                                                                                                                  
Other Federal Program Match                                                                                                     
$2,038,000 G/F Match                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle explained  that the  project matches  funds from                                                                    
the National  Highway Transportation  Safety Administration,                                                                    
the  Federal Motor  Carrier Safety  Administration, and  the                                                                    
Federal Transit Administration.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Project #7470                                                                                                                   
Airport Improvement Program                                                                                                     
$283,026,500 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                          
$19,165,000 Int Airprt                                                                                                          
$29,577,055 IntAptCons                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  said  the  request was  for  the  authority  to                                                                    
receive federal funds in order  to use international airport                                                                    
revenue  funds,   and  international   airport  construction                                                                    
funds.    She  referred  to the  lengthy  list  of  projects                                                                    
included.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:48:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #32610                                                                                                                  
Surface Transportation Program                                                                                                  
$400,000 CIP Rcpts                                                                                                              
$238,605,650 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  described the  allocation  as  funding for  the                                                                    
statewide   transportation   improvement   program   (STIP).                                                                    
Senator  Dyson asked  when  the  Glenn Highway  construction                                                                    
project would begin.   Mr. Richards offered  to provide that                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:50:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #40557                                                                                                                  
Congressional Earmarks                                                                                                          
$450,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle referred  to the  allocation on  page 11  of the                                                                    
Project  Review   Listing.    It  consists   of  the  Hoonah                                                                    
Intermodal Ferry Dock and  the Wrangell Ferry Infrastructure                                                                    
and requests  receipt and expenditure authority  for federal                                                                    
funds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked if any  communities were left off the                                                                    
list.   Ms.  Slagle  explained that  earmarks  have to  come                                                                    
through the  department.  Those  listed were  overlooked and                                                                    
not  listed  previously.   Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  if  the                                                                    
department  requests   expenditure  authority   rather  than                                                                    
declines such earmarks.  Ms. Slagle said yes.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:52:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards summarized  that the requests on  the list have                                                                    
gone through the state's scoring  system, criteria have been                                                                    
worked  internally, and  they  are ready  for  funding.   He                                                                    
requested the committee's support.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  if  there  have  been  any  public                                                                    
hearings  on the  capital requests.    Mr. Richards  replied                                                                    
that the  STIP process  is a public  process.   He mentioned                                                                    
the  challenges  related  to the  STIP  process.    Co-Chair                                                                    
Stedman  commented that  there are  some concerns  about the                                                                    
STIP process.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman noted that the  administration was going to                                                                    
reallocate  funds   for  the   Gravina  Island   project  in                                                                    
Ketchikan.   He requested more information  about the status                                                                    
of that project.  Mr.  Richards reported that the project is                                                                    
currently undergoing  a supplemental EIS.   Co-Chair Stedman                                                                    
asked  how  the federal  receipts  would  be handled.    Mr.                                                                    
Richards  addressed  what might  happen  if  the funds  were                                                                    
reallocated.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   asked  why   DOT  did  not   request  an                                                                    
appropriation  for   the  Gravina  Access.     Mr.  Richards                                                                    
reported  on the  supplemental EIS  process related  to that                                                                    
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:57:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton wondered  if the  question  pertained to  the                                                                    
Juneau  Access  Project.    Co-Chair  Stedman  said  it  was                                                                    
relevant  to  both  projects.    Senator  Elton  shared  his                                                                    
understanding  of the  funding status  of the  Juneau Access                                                                    
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  clarified that he was  specifically addressing                                                                    
the Gravina project.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  commented  about  the  need  for  forward                                                                    
funding for these projects.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:59:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson commented  on the  public  process not  being                                                                    
optimal on  a project in his  district.  He opined  that DOT                                                                    
was not responsive to this  issue.  Co-Chair Stedman agreed.                                                                    
Co-Chair Hoffman also agreed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RECESSED:      5:02:51 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENED:    5:04:58 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
              DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
LETA  SIMONS,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF   SUPPORT  SERVICES,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT   OF   NATURAL   RESOURCES,   reported   on   the                                                                    
department's requests.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #45278                                                                                                                  
Reservoir Studies to  Evaluate Oil and Gas  Resources on the                                                                    
North Slope                                                                                                                     
$4,000,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  explained that  the  request  would enable  the                                                                    
Division of  Oil and  Gas to  evaluate the  best use  of gas                                                                    
resources  on the  North  Slope.   It  will  help the  state                                                                    
determine  the  amount  of  gas  that  should  be  delivered                                                                    
through the pipeline,  as opposed to the  amount that should                                                                    
be used to maximize oil production.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Project #45279                                                                                                                  
Contract Auditors for Reducing  Royalty and Net Profit Share                                                                    
Lease Audit Backlogs                                                                                                            
$200,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons  reported that  this item on  the House  side was                                                                    
moved into the operating budget.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman pointed out the  magnitude of dollars being                                                                    
spent  in the  oil basin.   He  thought that  the department                                                                    
should provide more information  about legal, reservoir, and                                                                    
road issues at a later time.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #31371                                                                                                                  
Oil and Gas Royalty Valuation                                                                                                   
$1,000,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons noted that the item  had also been moved into the                                                                    
operating  budget.   The  project  would  fund the  cost  of                                                                    
outside  legal counsel  and outside  experts in  case it  is                                                                    
needed  for  reopener  arbitration   on  the  three  primary                                                                    
contracts with ExxonMobil, BP, and ConocoPhillips.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Project #43300                                                                                                                  
Alaska Energy Inventory Project Completion of Phase 1                                                                           
$350,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons  said that the  project would  identify resources                                                                    
that can be developed to meet local area energy needs.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #38886                                                                                                                  
Land Sales-New Subdivision Development                                                                                          
$2,614,000 State Land                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons explained  that the  project  authorizes DNR  to                                                                    
spend  revenue  from  previous  land  sales  that  has  been                                                                    
deposited  in  the  Land  Disposal  Income  Fund  (LDIF)  to                                                                    
propose, design,  develop, survey,  and build roads  for new                                                                    
subdivisions sales.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Project # 33955                                                                                                                 
Wildland Fire Truck Replacement - Phase 1                                                                                       
$625,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simmons related that the  project was for replacement of                                                                    
critical fire fighting  equipment.  It will  purchase Type 3                                                                    
and three Type 6 engines.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project #6843                                                                                                                   
State Park Emergency Repairs                                                                                                    
$400,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  reported  that the  funding  will  upgrade  and                                                                    
replace  basic  facilities  that  present  safety  risks  at                                                                    
parks.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:09:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45485                                                                                                                  
Department of Natural Resources Deferred Maintenance                                                                            
$6,323,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  explained  that  there  were  four  allocations                                                                    
within the request.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Project #38878                                                                                                                  
State Parks Deferred Maintenance                                                                                                
$5,228,000                                                                                                                      
ASLC Bonds                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  said the  request  will  help address  the  $52                                                                    
million backlog in deferred maintenance needs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:10:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #42878                                                                                                                  
DNR Northern Region Office Building Deferred Maintenance                                                                        
$545,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons  highlighted the funding  request to  upgrade the                                                                    
DNR office in Fairbanks.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Project #45267                                                                                                                  
Forestry Buildings Deferred Maintenance                                                                                         
$400,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  explained  that the  project  is  for  building                                                                    
repairs in Delta Junction, Soldotna, Palmer, and Delta.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Project #45252                                                                                                                  
Plant Material Center Deferred Building Maintenance                                                                             
$150,000 ASLC Bonds                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  explained  the  request  to  upgrade  the  main                                                                    
building at the plant material center in Palmer.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered  if there was a  list of buildings                                                                    
in  need of  repair and  how decisions  were made  to repair                                                                    
them.  Ms. Simons replied  that the divisions make requests,                                                                    
most of  which are  on-going and cover  several years.   The                                                                    
most pressing issues are addressed first.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:12:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #6852                                                                                                                   
Airborne Geophysical and Geological Mineral Inventory                                                                           
$850,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
$350,000 Stat Desig                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons pointed  out that  the item  was moved  into the                                                                    
operating budget on the House side.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Project #45255                                                                                                                  
Architecture  and Engineering  for a  New Geologic  Material                                                                    
Center in Eagle River  Phase 1.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons reported  that it was critical to  the success of                                                                    
energy  and   resource  development  in  Alaska   to  store,                                                                    
protect,  and provide  access to  the state's  geologic core                                                                    
samples.  The existing facility is crowded and inadequate.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  why the  request was  included this                                                                    
year and  not last year.   Ms. Simons replied that  it was a                                                                    
matter  of  priorities.    She  explained  the  prioritizing                                                                    
process.   Co-Chair Stedman  asked if  the list  of requests                                                                    
had been prioritized.  Ms. Simons said it had been.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:15:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45283                                                                                                                  
Implementation of Electronic Document Recording                                                                                 
$120,000 Rcpt Svcs                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons explained that the  project would allow the state                                                                    
to   electronically   submit   and  record   real   property                                                                    
documents.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Project #45264                                                                                                                  
Reforestation in Southcentral and Interior Alaska                                                                               
$370,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons  described the request  as an  on-going, periodic                                                                    
activity to  plant trees on  timber harvest sites  in Kenai,                                                                    
Mat-Su, Fairbanks, and Delta areas.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:16:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #41426                                                                                                                  
BLM 2009  State Support for Public Access                                                                                       
$300,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons noted  the request  was moved  to the  operating                                                                    
budget on the House side.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project # 41415                                                                                                                 
Gas  Pipeline  Corridor  Geologic Hazards  and  Resources                                                                       
Phase 2                                                                                                                         
$600,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Simons  explained   that  the   request  would   allow                                                                    
continuation  of geologic  mapping,  hazard assessment,  and                                                                    
resource evaluation along the  proposed natural gas pipeline                                                                    
corridor from Delta Junction to the Canadian border.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Project #45260                                                                                                                  
CO2 Sequestration Assessment Phase 1                                                                                            
$200,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                              
$100,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  said  the project  is  a  collaborative  effort                                                                    
between DGGS,  Division of Oil  and Gas, DEC,  UAF, industry                                                                    
including  oil  and  gas   producers  and  electrical  power                                                                    
utilities,  the  Federal  government and  WESTCARB,  a  U.S.                                                                    
Department  of Energy  co-funded research  partnership.   It                                                                    
will ensure  that assessment and utilization  of CO2 storage                                                                    
is based on sound science.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Project #42062                                                                                                                  
Statewide Digital Mapping Initiative Year 3                                                                                     
$2,000,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                            
$2,000,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons explained  that the  project would  result in  a                                                                    
digital  map  of  Alaska  and allow  users  quick  and  easy                                                                    
access.   No disaster  preparedness or  emergency management                                                                    
system will work in Alaska without this base map.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:18:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked what has  been accomplished so far on                                                                    
prior appropriations.  Ms. Simons  explained that little has                                                                    
been spent  so far.   So far,  a USGS topographical  map and                                                                    
NOAA  charts have  been compiled.   She  listed a  web site,                                                                    
Alaskamapped.org, as a reference.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman requested  a priority  list of  areas that                                                                    
will be mapped.  Ms. Simons offered to do so.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman pointed out that  it is a public service to                                                                    
have   this  survey   information  online,   especially  for                                                                    
historical purposes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:19:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #43321                                                                                                                  
State Park Sanitation and Safety Projects                                                                                       
$850,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons stated  that the project would  replace the worst                                                                    
of the  toilets in the  state park system and  address other                                                                    
safety needs.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #6865                                                                                                                   
National Historic Preservation Fund Federal Grant Program                                                                       
$1,000,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                            
$50,000 G/F Match                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons  pointed out  that this  item is  federal funding                                                                    
included in the CS.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Project #45259                                                                                                                  
Geologic  Materials  Center Deferred  Maintenance,  Repairs,                                                                    
and Operational Upgrades                                                                                                        
$65,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons  reported that this  request would fund  the most                                                                    
critical repairs  and maintenance of the  Geologic Materials                                                                    
Center in  Eagle River.  The  funds would be used  for leaky                                                                    
roofs and a sprinkler system.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:22:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45256                                                                                                                  
Cook Inlet Energy Assessment                                                                                                    
$260,000 AK Cap Inc                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  reported  that  the  assessment  would  provide                                                                    
information for  resource development by the  private sector                                                                    
for a Cook Inlet industry sponsorship program.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Project #41432                                                                                                                  
Fire Fighting Equipment Replacement Phase 2                                                                                     
$500,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons  explained that the request  would replace pumps,                                                                    
chainsaws,  portable generator,  banding equipment  and fire                                                                    
engine tools.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas  referred  back to  the  Cook  Inlet  Energy                                                                    
Assessment.    He asked  if  Prudhoe  Bay is  being  handled                                                                    
better at  this time than Cook  Inlet has been in  the past.                                                                    
Ms. Simons offered to provide that information.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:24:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45257                                                                                                                  
Geologic Hazards Associated with Climate Change Phase 1                                                                         
$330,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  described  the  project  as  identification  of                                                                    
potential hazards due to climate  change and consistent with                                                                    
the DGGS statutory  mission.  The end result  of the project                                                                    
will be a hazards map and report.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked why  this was a  low priority.   Ms.                                                                    
Simons did not know, but offered to find out.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Project #37769                                                                                                                  
Federal  and Local  Government  Funded  Forest Resource  and                                                                    
Fire Program Projects                                                                                                           
$2,200,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                            
$800,000 Stat Desig                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  described  the  project  as  having  continuing                                                                    
federal  funding.    It includes  education  and  prevention                                                                    
components.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Project #40082                                                                                                                  
AK Coastal Management Federal Pass Through Grants                                                                               
$1,360,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons noted that it is funded by NOAA.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  what  the   department  is  doing  to                                                                    
cooperate  with   the  Bering  Straits   Coastal  Management                                                                    
Program.  Ms. Simons offered to find out.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:26:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #38480                                                                                                                  
Remote Recreational Cabin Sites Surveys and Appraisals                                                                          
$1,011,500 State Land                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons summarized  that the  request authorizes  DNR to                                                                    
appraise  and contract  for surveys  of Remote  Recreational                                                                    
Cabin Site properties.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #32553                                                                                                                  
Alaska Boating Safety Program                                                                                                   
$1,000,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                            
$200,000 Veh Rcpts                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons  said the request  may be moved to  the operating                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman requested  to know how the  money was spent                                                                    
in past years.   He wanted information  related to drownings                                                                    
in  Western  Alaska.   Senator  Olson  also  requested  that                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:28:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #32552                                                                                                                  
Land and Water Conservation Fund Federal Grant Program                                                                          
$600,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons  reported that  the request  is a  50/50 matching                                                                    
grant program  that provides funding for  the development of                                                                    
outdoor recreation areas and facilities.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Project #6854                                                                                                                   
National Recreational Trail Grants Program                                                                                      
$1,500,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman requested  more information.   Ms.  Simons                                                                    
deferred to DNR.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS  DEGERNES, FIELD  OPERATIONS,  DIVISION  OF PARKS  AND                                                                    
OUTDOOR   RECREATION,  DEPARTMENT   OF  NATURAL   RESOURCES,                                                                    
explained  that the  program  receives  federal funding  for                                                                    
competitive  grant  programs  throughout   the  state.    It                                                                    
supports trail projects and educational programs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:30:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #33690                                                                                                                  
Snowmobile Trail Development and Program Grants                                                                                 
$250,000 VehRcpts                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  noted  that  the   funds  are  from  snowmobile                                                                    
registration  fees  and are  spent:  69  percent for  direct                                                                    
grants  for trail  development,  17 percent  for safety  and                                                                    
education programs, and 14  percent for grant administration                                                                    
and support of the Snowmobile Trails Advisory Committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Project #45250                                                                                                                  
Plant Material Center Deferred Equipment Replacement                                                                            
$465,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons reported that the  request is in order to replace                                                                    
a combine, a dozer, and other equipment.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   requested  only  non-federal   items  be                                                                    
addressed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Project #AMD37762                                                                                                               
Cooperative  Water Resource  Program    Division of  Mining,                                                                    
Land and Water                                                                                                                  
$300,000 Stat Desig                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons explained that the  request was split between the                                                                    
Division  of  Land and  Water  and  the Office  of  Habitat,                                                                    
Management, and Permitting.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Project #45274                                                                                                                  
RS2477 Surveys                                                                                                                  
$100,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  described  the project  as  funds  to  continue                                                                    
survey work.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45272                                                                                                                  
Mat-Su Borough Hydrogeology Assessment Phase 1                                                                                  
$295,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons  reported that  the goal is  to provide  DNR with                                                                    
knowledge   to  effectively   manage  Mat-Su's   groundwater                                                                    
resources.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:32:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #45282                                                                                                                  
Kenai River Public Use Study                                                                                                    
$200,000 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons  said the  study would  implement recommendations                                                                    
in  the   Kenai  River  Comprehensive  Management   Plan  by                                                                    
evaluating recreational use and environmental impacts.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Project #45262                                                                                                                  
EVOS  Restoration  Acquisition  of Small  Parcels     Anchor                                                                    
River, Kiliunda Bay, Soldotna, Valdez                                                                                           
$1,513,000 Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Settlement (EVOS)                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons  reported  that  the  EVOS  Trustee  Council  is                                                                    
pursuing acquisition of five small  parcels to contribute to                                                                    
the  restoration of  resources and  services injured  by the                                                                    
Exxon Valdez Oil Spill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Project #45263                                                                                                                  
EVOS Parcel Acquisition  Afognak                                                                                                
$10,000,000 EVOSS                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Simons related that the  request would fund the purchase                                                                    
of 6,200 acres  on Northern Afognak Island  to contribute to                                                                    
the restoration of resources damaged by the oil spill.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  inquired who presently owns  the property.                                                                    
Ms.  Degernes  replied that  the  property  was owned  by  a                                                                    
village cooperation called Afognak Joint Ventures.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked  if the sale price  was the appraised                                                                    
value  of the  property.   Ms. Degernes  thought it  was the                                                                    
fair  market value  appraisal.   Co-Chair Hoffman  asked who                                                                    
did the appraisal.  Ms. Degernes offered to find out.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:34:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Project #6853                                                                                                                   
Mental Health Trust Land Development                                                                                            
$650,000 MHTARR                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons explained  that this  was  authorization to  use                                                                    
funds for  an on-going activity    the management  of Mental                                                                    
Health Trust lands.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Project # 40474                                                                                                                 
Mental Health Trust Facilities Maintenance                                                                                      
$350,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Simons   reported  that  the  request   was  for  major                                                                    
maintenance, property  management, snow removal,  and repair                                                                    
of Mental Health Trust facilities.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RECESSED:      5:35:47 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENED:    5:37:16 PM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requested  that Department of Environmental                                                                    
Conservation items be prioritized.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Hoffman   asked   that  information   about   how                                                                    
department   funds  are   being  spent   throughout  various                                                                    
election districts in Alaska.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
         DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MIKE MAHER,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT  OF  ENVIRONMENTAL  CONSERVATION,  presented  the                                                                    
requests.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Project #45210                                                                                                                  
Monitoring of Dust Control Technologies in Rural Alaska                                                                         
$224,107 Gen Fund                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Maher  explained that  request is  for funds  to monitor                                                                    
the success of the dust control program.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Project #41376                                                                                                                  
Water and Wastewater Infrastructure Projects                                                                                    
$78,728,511 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                           
$22,909,504 G/F Match                                                                                                           
$18,966,870 Gen Fund                                                                                                            
$500,000 Stat Desig                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL  GRIFFITH,  FACILITIES  PROGRAMS MANAGER,  DIVISION  OF                                                                    
WATER, DEPARTMENT  OF ENVIRONMENTAL  CONSERVATION, explained                                                                    
the  request for  multiple allocations  for statewide  water                                                                    
and wastewater capital improvement projects.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:44:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Griffith provided  a 3-year  priority  list for  larger                                                                    
projects for  village safe-water  funding.   Federal funding                                                                    
requirements must  be used  for large,  multi-year projects.                                                                    
Such projects are funded over several fiscal years.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if such  projects can  be prefunded.                                                                    
Mr.  Griffith   explained  that  federal   funding  agencies                                                                    
require  using the  3-year priority  list, so  to not  put a                                                                    
large amount  of money into  a several-year project.   It is                                                                    
done in phases so money is not just sitting around.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman noted  that page  21  contains the  3-year                                                                    
priority list.   He  asked how  much of that  list is  to be                                                                    
funded this year.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:47:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Griffith said that approximately  $77.6 million would go                                                                    
toward  projects on  the list;  however, the  list does  not                                                                    
reflect who  gets what when.   The  request for funds  is in                                                                    
order to keep the projects moving.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  stated that  he would like  to see  a grid                                                                    
that shows the  status of the projects.  He  asked about the                                                                    
$24 million for  projects with federal funding  that are not                                                                    
on the  3-year priority list.   Mr. Griffith  explained that                                                                    
those are smaller design and  construction projects that can                                                                    
be  completed  over a  single  season  which were  requested                                                                    
earlier in the year by communities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  asked if $24,549,310 was  being requested.                                                                    
Mr. Griffith said that was correct.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas inquired if similar  projects share a similar                                                                    
general design.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:50:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Griffin   reported  that  the  department   works  with                                                                    
consultants  to  develop  some standard  designs,  but  also                                                                    
develops customized designs.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton referred to the  projects with federal funding                                                                    
that are not  on the 3-year list.  He  wondered how they get                                                                    
federal funding if  they are not on the priority  list.  Mr.                                                                    
Griffith  related that  the  department  works closely  with                                                                    
federal funding agencies, which  includes EPA and USDA World                                                                    
Development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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